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Post by Revan on Nov 11, 2008 23:17:34 GMT -7
Vote here about which console you perfer and that you think is winning the war!
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Post by Revan on Nov 19, 2008 22:47:51 GMT -7
Oh! We actually have a vote for the PS3! Speak up! Who dares challenge the Xbox 360?
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Post by Xombi on Nov 20, 2008 7:56:47 GMT -7
hahaha
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Post by Zycor on Nov 21, 2008 11:29:38 GMT -7
Due to the fact that I have not had the pleasure of sitting down and grabbing the controller of a ps3 I feel that it would be unfair to choose between the 360 and ps3 at this time.
I am positive though that either the 360 or ps3 beats the wii hands down as I have had the pleasure of playing the wii, it was fun I admit but it has no comparison to the 360 and I'm sure that if it doesn't measure up to my old ps2 (which it doesn't) then it won't measure up to the ps3.
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 22, 2008 14:35:41 GMT -7
lulz, Nintendo has a million more gamrs than Ps3 will ever have (I have one). While the PS3 is fun I'm not hugely into shooters or games where cussing and lot's of excessive gore is present, I don't even find games like splinter cell or ghost recon that fun I'd rather play fighters that have lot's of depth (melee, street fighter, virtual fighter, soul caliber even dead or alive one in a while) or adventure games that are fun for my younger siblings to get in on for example ZELDA!!!
Don't even go into the argument of Hardcore gaming with me either, I am hardcore about a lot of games, I just DARE you to play Melee against me I'd almost go as far to say that I'm the best in Montana and I'm going to play over on the west coast as soon as I can.
I also don't care about graphics, I mean seriously when did gameplay get reduced to staring at the screen to seen the million little fibers composing your guy's cape? Seriously I could care less, that is why I loved the 64 over the PS3. The real core of gaming consoles is not all the extra crap that they can do, neither is it that their games allow you to see the white blood cells oozing out of a guy's head when you snipe him from 300 miles away (not to mention that this doesn't appeal to a very large audience).
Games are about the "Play", the time you can spend on them alone conquering puzzles and fighting through hordes of enemies with nothing but a pistol or rusty old sword in danger of death at every step, or the hours you spend laughing at stupid deaths, crazy stunts and ridiculously cool PWNage that happens when you take your freind's to multiplayer. Heck, I'm into competitive fighters so that opens up even more stuff I can do when the "gameplay" is good not flashy or spectacular but it's good enough to allow a mastery skills and character variances to compete.
Seriously, if you want something that plays blueray and you want a PS system (even though they are still making pS2 games for some retarded reason) then go ahead and expect some original titles that will probably be continued to a 12th sequal that is supposed to be related to the first game but bears little to no resemblence except for the name.... this is because sony lacks the ability to create their own icons!
What do you think of when you think of sony? Can you think of even one character or world that was developed specifically to be in a game or even exclusively by sony? hmmm.... splinter cell? nope, based off a book... umm.... some sports.... racing games.... Oh! Their's the Jack and daxter series that went downhill after the first game to be revived in their racing title.... Rachet and clank? Ok, that I will give you but seriously you have to admit that most of their character lack enough depth or passion in them to be held close to your heart and remembered. (*cough* Rachet and Clank was helped out by Insomniac)
The same goes for microsoft in my opinion, they have cool games just like PS3 so don't get me wrong but they don't have it where it counts for me. (Yet their precious halo series is now scrape metal because Bungee is so stinkin' sick of making the same game over and over)
***NOTE***
This is completely opinion based upon what is important to me as a gamer, perhaps you don't like characters that stick with you, epic battles that are more memorable than a giant and highly detailed monster charging and killing not only soldier A and B but it also causes them to swear repeatedly up to five minutes after their death.
For me the bottom line in a game must have this and anything else is candy in the bucket:
Memorable or perhaps even unique and challenging gameplay (Mario world 3 or tetris anyone?)
Gripping and compelling storyline that emphasises the good in the world triumphing over evil, I don't want to see an ex-murder save the world and then go on his own rampage... that's retardation and a bad message. I want just a good clean old storyline, it can be done and what's more it can be done well.
Character development is probably almost the same as storyline but it can be easily over looked, in morrowind can you remember the names of any of the villagers? Are even 10% relevant to the game/broken storyline? While in games like Zelda, not everyone may have a name but they get names because they were actually relevant to the game "the running man" or "the guy guarding the mountian gate" while not all vilagers may be relevant in Zelda around 50% more of them are important than in most of these newer games.
That's all, I feel that newer games are not taking an optimal direction and they are straying from what originally made games great!
Gameplay (Pacman and centipede for crying out loud)
Storyline (Zelda is really the biggest name I can think of at the moment)
Character development (Mario for crying out loud gives you main characters that make you laugh, get mad and remember them for stinkin' ever!)
Most of the time Microsoft and Sony pay another company to help them launch any of the really "good" titles that they get. (let's not talk about sports or racing for right now) Think about this:
Kingdom hearts (love the game) = Square Enix/Disney Final Fantasy (whatever number = Square Enix Halo = Bungee R & C = Insomniac Soul caliber (was put out for all the systems so do dibs there) Gears of war = I think that's pretty much Microsoft's, but check your game cases is there a major company that could jerk the footing out from under it? The fact is that in these examples the series and in some cases the main characters are all property of a third party company and if that company decided not to do something than Sony and Microsoft just sit there in the corner and cut themselves. (emo joke, the Xbox and PS3 are black lol)
I am completely on the side of Nintendo, they have been making their own original games forever, and while they have used third parties in some cases their main games have always been owned exclusively by them. Meaning that they can make sure their characters are not abused or their image changed, image is what has made nintendo and the fact that it respects the family gamers, hardcore gamers and retro gamers equally.
That ther's my agument (hick accent) any objictions?
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Post by Revan on Nov 22, 2008 22:49:20 GMT -7
Ummmm................. wow. I will give this point to you.... (Goes off to the corner and hugs self crying....) ....... Ok.............. Uh........ I will get back to you on a good argument...... the only thing I can say now is that THE BATTLE IS NOT OVER YET!!!! MUAHAHAHHAHA!!!! Xbox has a few more tricks and games up its sleeves!!! I WILL UNCOVER THE TRUTH!!! I WILL!!!
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Post by Zycor on Nov 23, 2008 13:25:49 GMT -7
Very well put Ganon but while you don't really care about graphics there are some of us out there that love the graphics as it looks more realistic and in some of our minds that character we are playing at the moment becomes us so the more realistic looking the better.
The realism in the games is also preparing us for that new era when we will be able to sit down in our favorite chair strap on the headset and enter a world where anything goes, I for one hope I am alive to see that.
Its going to be awesomeness!!!
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Post by Xombi on Nov 23, 2008 22:18:56 GMT -7
ahhhhh.... cursid backwards logic... from a nintindo hound i shalt never hear "makes the same game over and over" mario has a ton of sequils, (halo 3 for some reason seams to be a target, maby because its been out for a year and a half and is more popular than GOD!, and apart from that all the halo slobber hounds obediantly wait another year for more maps and a new chapter in the game, youll never see such things from nintindo-even though i still love them as they watch my house waiting to kill me for such slander) as for story at least the 360 mix's it up every now and then by thoughing out a brand new series (unlike nintindo reliesing a new series with the same characters) as for icons you seem to not notice that microsoft has a decent army of recognizable icons (banjo and kazooi, mastur chief, concur the squirrel (who didnt reliese his new title on his original system nintindo and instead went to xbox)) as for the family demographic xbox has them coverd also with tittles like viva pinata and any xbox arcade games, ps3 targets tech freaks, nintindo targets children, and microsoft tagets EVERYONE. the hardcore thing dosnt just deal with gore and swearing, its also about a game with more depth than heres the captured princess go save her ass (mario... zelda) as for decent depth and hardcore RPG's see Oblivion , almost all 360 games are fully advertised and the wii has 40 that come out without any warning and are about as good as alone in the dark for the ps1(sucked) ive been gaming since beefore i could pronounce my r's and the consols are futill because PC gamers are the master race, and above that is those who still play D&D......
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Post by Xombi on Nov 23, 2008 22:25:27 GMT -7
as for fighters Soul calibur whoops the ass of SSBB
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 26, 2008 18:10:10 GMT -7
Try SSBM noob, or something more sophisticated like Virtual Fighter/Soul Caliber on the Wii.
Mario's sequals are pretty stupid most of the time but that is because he is meant to be a side scroller, that's how he started and he isn't doing too well except as a kid's game now a days.
How in the heck of it does Microsoft target everyone to the extent that Nintendo does? How many games a year does Mircosoft put out that are family freindly vs. Adult freindly/only.
Oh, and just so you know Nintendo sold them Banjo who has yet to have his first game on teh XBOX come out and Conker was also originally Nintendo's you can even look it up on Wikipedia.
OBLIVION IS NOT AN RPG IT"S LIKE A SHOOTER WITH SWORDS AND STATS!!!
And as for go save the captured princess, GO PLAY TWILIGHT PRINCESS
Zelda is expanding and changing, Besides Link's objective hasn't been to save the princess since the SNES game.
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 26, 2008 18:13:10 GMT -7
*takes deep breath*
Hardcore is not what a game is when it comes out, when a game comes out it is in NO way hardcore. It is what fans do, the devotion and hours they spend. Fans are hardcore not Games.
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Post by Xombi on Nov 26, 2008 22:48:15 GMT -7
Try SSBM noob, or something more sophisticated like Virtual Fighter/Soul Caliber on the Wii. Mario's sequals are pretty stupid most of the time but that is because he is meant to be a side scroller, that's how he started and he isn't doing too well except as a kid's game now a days. How in the heck of it does Microsoft target everyone to the extent that Nintendo does? How many games a year does Mircosoft put out that are family freindly vs. Adult freindly/only. Oh, and just so you know Nintendo sold them Banjo who has yet to have his first game on teh XBOX come out and Conker was also originally Nintendo's you can even look it up on Wikipedia. OBLIVION IS NOT AN RPG IT"S LIKE A SHOOTER WITH SWORDS AND STATS!!! And as for go save the captured princess, GO PLAY TWILIGHT PRINCESS Zelda is expanding and changing, Besides Link's objective hasn't been to save the princess since the SNES game. OK first i said nothing about a games release date and how that factors into it being hardcore..... and second link is still saving the princess just in a new side quest wrapped story- i had no intention of playing any other Zelda games since windwaker's release, mainly because it was such a letdown for me and the main reason i turned my back of the franchise (i still hold that majora's mask was the best of the entirety-OBLIVION IS NOT AN RPG?!?!?!(you know the capslock is a bad key if overused) and ye it is a ROLE-PLAYING-GAME (thus why its predecessor got RPG of the year 2 years prior) even more so of one that i dun know Zelda due to the open world and the non-linear story- Banjo and conker were Rare characters rare sold out to Microsoft due to the fact that it doubled the amount of money they were worth- its funny how people believe that Wikipedia is a reliable source of information- as for rare(or whoever they are now)'s current games well.... lets just say pinata party is a fat load of COCK compared to the good old days of pissing people to death(bad fur day), as for the fighting games and their sophistication virtual fighter is better on any other system than teh wii, soulcalibur is easyer to play with any other controller than the wii or gamecubes, and SSBM was mediocre at best. about half of the 360's games are family friendly- but thats not something i worry about- as Ive never had boundary's put on my gaming (played manhunt resident evil and many other gory games as a spawn) and i don't have to put up with any under 14's that should be taken of the Ritalin and given a good beating instead. as for game selection the 360 has about twice as many games as the wii and is constantly updating and evolving whilst the wii has yet to get there six-axis to work (strange because the PS3's six-axis is working fine) and finally as for me being a newb-I've been called worse and the fact that Ive been gaming since i was old enough to use the Atari- owned about every console except the gamecube- avidly play every day on my PC or 360(because i pawned my wii for half what i payed- and never regretted it)- Piss of you wank!!!!! ;D now I'm not one to lash out with language (revan can cover for me on that) but ill return to my previous statement because there is no STUPIDER of an insult in gaming than NooB- sadly one of the worst ones ever invented yet it is avidly used as a defense over anything because all you have to do is go " what do you know noob" and ignore the argument, sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "LALALA IM NOT LISTENING" , Piss of you wank!!!!!
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Post by Ace of Defiance on Nov 26, 2008 22:53:30 GMT -7
LOL 360 beats all no contest ps3 cost way to much and wii's break way to fast lol ecept RROD hahahah
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Post by Xombi on Nov 26, 2008 22:53:34 GMT -7
also why is it that you go back to the 64, nes, and gamecube. this is between the 360, and the wii, thus my hatred for SSBB is not fixed by your argument of SSBM because it is not an original Wii title
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Post by Xombi on Nov 26, 2008 23:07:54 GMT -7
That's all, I feel that newer games are not taking an optimal direction and they are straying from what originally made games great!
Gameplay (Pacman and centipede for crying out loud)<---- correction Atari's tademark and not part of nintindo's influence( especially since they make more for microsoft nowdays)
Storyline (Zelda is really the biggest name I can think of at the moment)<---(admitidly more gory silent hill has a far more complexing story)
Character development (Mario for crying out loud gives you main characters that make you laugh, get mad and remember them for stinkin' ever!) <--- everything till mario 64 then the rest is shit)
Most of the time Microsoft and Sony pay another company to help them launch any of the really "good" titles that they get. (let's not talk about sports or racing for right now) Think about this:
Kingdom hearts (love the game) = Square Enix/Disney <---shit and ps2 no relivence to current agument Final Fantasy (whatever number = Square Enix<- up to seven then shit Halo = Bungee <---- thought u had us huh only one not co created by microsoft is halo 3 but i regress thats the only one for the 360) R & C = Insomniac <---- blarg lol what the hell is R & C (i know its ratchet and clank but they never really TOOK OFF) Soul caliber (was put out for all the systems so do dibs there) YAY ATARI!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gears of war = I think that's pretty much Microsoft's, but check your game cases is there a major company that could jerk the footing out from under it? GOW SUCKED!!!!!!
The fact is that in these examples the series and in some cases the main characters are all property of a third party company and if that company decided not to do something than Sony and Microsoft just sit there in the corner and cut themselves. (emo joke, the Xbox and PS3 are black lol) <--- if anything the PS3 is a metalhead, and the xbox1 is a punk ( but the xbox 360 is the one were talking about)
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Post by Xombi on Nov 26, 2008 23:15:28 GMT -7
*takes deep breath* Hardcore is not what a game is when it comes out, when a game comes out it is in NO way hardcore. It is what fans do, the devotion and hours they spend. Fans are hardcore not Games. sorry misread.... the hardcore aspect of gaming is not about hardcore FANBOYS hell if your a hardcore fanboy than whatever but that has no aspect of what truly makes a game hardcore (decent dificulty curve(ninja gaiden2) good story(silent hill1 and 2) imersion(Assasins Creed) and charicter development(sadly i would have to say CoD4)
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Post by Xombi on Nov 26, 2008 23:20:44 GMT -7
I also don't care about graphics, I mean seriously when did gameplay get reduced to staring at the screen to seen the million little fibers composing your guy's cape? Seriously I could care less, that is why I loved the 64 over the PS3. The real core of gaming consoles is not all the extra crap that they can do, neither is it that their games allow you to see the white blood cells oozing out of a guy's head when you snipe him from 300 miles away (not to mention that this doesn't appeal to a very large audience). dosnt apeal to a large audiance, I disagree, thats why the game figures for shit like manhunt are so high.
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 27, 2008 17:39:45 GMT -7
Decent points but I'd still rather play most of my Nintendo games over anything else out there right now, they are just a whole lot more fun to me than the shooters pouring out of the market from Microsoft. Oh, and I disagree about Manhunt appealing to a huge audience. It appeals to the immature "young adult" audience that has yet to grow up and have a family, I really can't stand the stuff and don't understand why some other people can. That's just me though, we all have our different views and while stating them is all right we can sit here and argue our heads off forever without doing much so I'm advocating for peace but Nintendo still rulez the roost in my entertainment center.
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Post by Xombi on Nov 27, 2008 18:52:54 GMT -7
no problem and microsoft still rules the gaming scene
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Post by HK-47 on Nov 28, 2008 0:51:08 GMT -7
wow...i see no ps3 love here...
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Post by Xombi on Nov 28, 2008 14:59:05 GMT -7
DEATH TO THE PS3!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 28, 2008 15:13:58 GMT -7
DEATH TO THE PS3!!!!!!!!!! *hands you rocket launcher* This is one thing we can agree on.
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Post by Revan on Nov 28, 2008 18:04:11 GMT -7
DEATH TO THE PS3!!!!!!!!!! *hands you rocket launcher* This is one thing we can agree on. No no no my friends..... GIVE ME THE SPARTAN LASER!
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 28, 2008 18:12:17 GMT -7
Why you can't even hit me with it let alone Sony headquarters...
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Post by HK-47 on Nov 29, 2008 9:38:38 GMT -7
well looks like i may need to use my gunblade after all... LONG LIVE THE PS3!!!!
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Post by Ganondorf on Nov 30, 2008 13:54:34 GMT -7
Gunblade belongs to Enix not Sony
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Post by HK-47 on Dec 1, 2008 12:56:26 GMT -7
actually it belongs to square and was used by the main character in final fantasy 8 which is a ps1 exclusive which makes it fair to use in this fight.
by the way it took sony to fully handle the awesomeness of ff7 - 12 not nintendo.
final fantasy>>>legend of zelda
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Post by Xombi on Dec 1, 2008 23:10:08 GMT -7
BURN major FF PWNAGE long live Sony (PS3 still sucks tho and once again using old systems like NES SNES Gamecube ps1 and 2 in a current gen battle dosnt work- sorry guys)
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Post by Xombi on Dec 1, 2008 23:10:56 GMT -7
as far as current gen goes..... VIVA LA 360
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Post by HK-47 on Dec 2, 2008 3:11:05 GMT -7
i have one title for this this debate: resistance 2
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